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Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.23 06:02:00 -
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So what's the general opinion of top end PC teams. Do they never run tanks then? Fielding a tank is a mistake that gets you defeated? |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.23 10:44:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:So what's the general opinion of top end PC teams. Do they never run tanks then? Fielding a tank is a mistake that gets you defeated? yeah, the only purpose we have is to either counter the enemy's vehicles and prevent them from getting any ground OR defend the objectives from the enemy that may sneak by while both teams are fighting on the front lines, were basically suppression and defense, no offense because of obvious reasons. normally at least one team has at least 1 tank and in order to counter it, everyone brings in at least 1 tank.
So in other words, tanks are doing just fine. Thanks. |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:18:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:Void Echo wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:So what's the general opinion of top end PC teams. Do they never run tanks then? Fielding a tank is a mistake that gets you defeated? yeah, the only purpose we have is to either counter the enemy's vehicles and prevent them from getting any ground OR defend the objectives from the enemy that may sneak by while both teams are fighting on the front lines, were basically suppression and defense, no offense because of obvious reasons. normally at least one team has at least 1 tank and in order to counter it, everyone brings in at least 1 tank. So in other words, tanks are doing just fine. Thanks. How would you feel about a flaylock that could never miss and the person who was shooting it was invisible, and it did 500 damage? How about the OHK contact grenades? Both of those got nerfed, so by the same logic, swarms and AV grenades need to get nerfed, too.
Apples, oranges. How would you feel about a dropsuit that would be completely invulnerable to almost all of your available weapons, is faster than you, and yet can carry the weapons that are most deadly to you (oh and it got unlimited ammunition as well). Not to mention that being killed by a sniper feels pretty much the same. Yes a sniper can miss, but that doesn't help the victim now, does it.
I just find it odd to ask for total equilibrium when it comes to tanks. You can't have that without losing a lot of their threat factor as well, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like that either. |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
216
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:26:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:So what's the general opinion of top end PC teams. Do they never run tanks then? Fielding a tank is a mistake that gets you defeated? Strangely enough they usually field at least one tank, despite tanks being a 'joke' or 'unplayable' according to most tankers... Then how about you spend the SP and ISK to get yourself a tank and tell me how long they last.
He answered my question, how is your reply even relevant to it? I would appreciate your input on the question instead. |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
216
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:28:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:Apples, oranges. How would you feel about a dropsuit that would be completely invulnerable to almost all of your available weapons, is faster than you, and yet can carry the weapons that are most deadly to you (oh and it got unlimited ammunition as well). Not to mention that being killed by a sniper feels pretty much the same. Yes a sniper can miss, but that doesn't help the victim now, does it.
I just find it odd to ask for total equilibrium when it comes to tanks. You can't have that without losing a lot of their threat factor as well, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like that either. What a flawed text. Let everything how it is and give my tank the ability to hack objectives, okay? I will rail in PC and dominate Pubs.
Did you forget that your tank has an exit door?
Not that I can tell what this has to do with what I said anyway... |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:05:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:So what's the general opinion of top end PC teams. Do they never run tanks then? Fielding a tank is a mistake that gets you defeated? Strangely enough they usually field at least one tank, despite tanks being a 'joke' or 'unplayable' according to most tankers... Then how about you spend the SP and ISK to get yourself a tank and tell me how long they last. He answered my question, how is your reply even relevant to it? I would appreciate your input on the question instead. The point is that while tanks have the potential to dominate a battle, they are not isk-efficient and nobody, without a corp, can run only tanks (or drop ships) and support themselves. These are the only roles where this is a factor. It needs to be changed. Either by making tanks extremely cheap or by making them A LOT tougher. I run a callogi MD, and I've made one proto suit last through more games than a tank because infantry is far easier. If you disagree, you don't tank, and if you don't tank, you shouldn't be telling us what the role of a ta k is or if it is efficient or not.
That is odd, because you made no mention of ISK in the OP and made it sound like tanks are actually useless in PC.
Just keep going in circles... |
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